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I'm so damn ... everything right now. Sad and frustrated and angry and furious and depressed and disheartened. I felt such hope in the days leading up to the election, there was such possibility that the stupidity and destruction of the last four years would be denounced by the American people, my people, and that we could go on and fix what has been mangled, rebuild what has been destroyed. Instead we get this, bickering and uncertainty and rank stupidity.

I like to understand people and give them the benefit of the doubt but I just can't do that today, I can't look at all of the people who voted for Bush and think 'hey, they must have had a good reason to do that, even if I don't agree with them' because I just can't. I look at my father and brother who voted for Bush (though, thank goodness Kerry took MI anyway) and I'm flabbergasted, upset, enraged.

Part of my wants to run away from these problems, to leave the morons to deal with the consequences of their own actions but another side of me refuses to do so. This is my home, damnit, and there has to be something I can do to make this better. Please let there be something I can do to make this better.

Date: 2004-11-03 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drunken-buzzard.livejournal.com
Move to Canada with the rest of us. Screw these bastards and their "moral" issues. When they are are all poor, jobless, and no federal aid to help them b/c the money is spent on the stupid war - we can point and laugh.

Date: 2004-11-03 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
That is so sounding better and better. Fuck 'em, they got themselves into this mess, now let them get themselves out of it.

i don't know what we can do to make it better

Date: 2004-11-03 08:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
but if you figure it out, can you clue me in? b/c i'm feeling exactly how you're feeling right now. And i'm also very scared. very, very scared about the direction this country has taken by making this choice.
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From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
If/when I figure anything out you'll be the first to know. Right now I'm so in shock that I simply cannot think, my mind has shut down and all I can see are soldiers goose-stepping their way through American streets.

(*Insert Maple Leaf Here*)

Date: 2004-11-03 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddess-jax.livejournal.com
Chris, Danielle and myself are moving to Canada- come with us! We'll be happy there. Toronto is a lot like America only a whole lot smarter, it'll be a change for the better. We should have to stand here and squish our toes in everyone else's bullshit- let's run away!

Re: (*Insert Maple Leaf Here*)

Date: 2004-11-03 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
I love Toronto!

Running away sounds soooo good right now.

Date: 2004-11-03 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baylorsr.livejournal.com
One word: Red-Hot-Alien-Resistance.

*hides in fictional universe*

Date: 2004-11-03 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
There is something supremely comforting about a universe whose problems stem from invading aliens rather then power-mad proto-despots.

*hides with you*

Date: 2004-11-03 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oselle.livejournal.com
I like to understand people and give them the benefit of the doubt but I just can't do that today, I can't look at all of the people who voted for Bush and think 'hey, they must have had a good reason to do that, even if I don't agree with them' because I just can't.

Nope, can't do it either. Nor can I understand people who dismiss anti-Bush sentiments as a lot of knee-jerk "OMGWTFBUSHISTHEDEVIL!" silliness with little substance behind it. I think I want out of here, myself. It'll take way too many decades to fix this, and I sure am not getting any younger.

Date: 2004-11-03 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
I look at them and think 'What the fuck were you thinking?! Were you thinking?! Do you even know how to read a damn newspaper?!'

You know, I hear Europe is nice this time of year and Canada ain't half bad. Hell, I'm willing to consider Mexico at the moment just so long as it's NOT HERE!

Date: 2004-11-03 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeliamedusa.livejournal.com
I like to understand people and give them the benefit of the doubt but I just can't do that today, I can't look at all of the people who voted for Bush and think 'hey, they must have had a good reason to do that, even if I don't agree with them' because I just can't.

I know what you mean. It's hard to treat lovingly people whose decision stems from beliefs I find morally reprehensible. It's even harder to accept that more than half of Americans fall into this category. Nonetheless, God commands me to love them. *sigh* I just read this article on NYTimes.com that you might find interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/opinion/03kris.html?hp

(tell me if you can't access it; I think it's worth copying and pasting or e-mailing)

Date: 2004-11-03 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
That is a great piece. It's true, the Democrats have lost touch with a whole bunch of Americans. It's astounding how so many religious people truly believe that the Republican party is the Christian party (and a fact that pisses me off more and more as I see Christian values twisted and skewed to fit their own selective worldview).

But, you know, I can understand why Democrats have such a hard time dealing with people who refuse to sit down and take a good look at how so many issues are adversely effecting their lives. The arrogance of deliberate stupidity is hard to accept.

Date: 2004-11-03 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeliamedusa.livejournal.com
Well, it's very generous of you to call it deliberate. ;)

Date: 2004-11-03 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
Perhaps not deliberate stupidity but certainly deliberate ignorance. It's not that hard to boot up a computer or go down to the library or watch PBS or do something to educate yourself on what's actually going on and what's the truth and what are outrageous lies.

People just don't even fucking try.

Date: 2004-11-03 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drunken-buzzard.livejournal.com
That is a great piece. It should also mention something that I believe Jax mentioned last night. When you see the American flag on a bumper sticker or rear window - what party comes to mind first? Somehow the Republifreaks have made this national icon a Republican icon. That has to change!

Date: 2004-11-03 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lame-pegasus.livejournal.com
I'm sad and angry and upset and... I wished I could see this doesn't bother me because I'm european, but in fact it does.

I'm so sorry.

Date: 2004-11-03 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
This election really does effect everyone because, truthfully, the world is much smaller then it was 10, 20, 50 years ago.

We're all going to have to band together in order to survive what's coming.

Date: 2004-11-03 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elendiari22.livejournal.com
I hear Europe's nice this time of year. Sigh.

Date: 2004-11-03 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
I have also heard that. It sounds better and better every single minute.

Date: 2004-11-03 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiemeesh.livejournal.com
I suppose the only thing we can do to make this better is keep working on the grass-roots movements, try to find a better candidate next time around, one who has a better chance of winning over undecided people.

I have a very good friend who voted for Bush. She was undecided up until the last minute, but something Kerry said in one of his debates upset her enough that she couldn't vote for him. Kerry won PA anyway, so it wasn't an issue, but I just don't see how she was able to look past all of the hideously wrong-minded things Bush has done, and vote for him anyway. Gah!

Date: 2004-11-03 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liptonrm.livejournal.com
Yeah, we can pretty much only pray and hope and work and try. We have a lot of work we have to do in the next four years, but I'm sure we're up to the challenge, we have to be.

For me Kerry was one of my TV/movie presidents incarnate, an intelligent, thoughtful, moral person who really cared about what he was doing and really wanted to help the country. It's just a shame that more people couldn't have seen that side of him.

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