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SPN 4x18


I, just, I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU GUYS!!!!

That first 10, 15 minutes, that was kinda torturous. Kinda really. THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE THE FOURTH WALL REALLY THERE IS!!!

But on the other hand it's kinda neat how they know us and get us, ya know? Cause none of that stuff isn't not true. And yet, the "prophet" is totally a fanfic writer. Well, actually, he's kind of a Kripke self-insert and I'd say something about self-aggrandizement but I really have no foot to stand on re: self inserts so I'll just shut my piehole and we'll all forget I even started this sentence. Okay? Okay.

One thing that Chuck gave them was someone who could sit down with Sam and have the conversation that so dearly needed to be had. Nothing that Sam said was terribly revelatory because, yes, he does think he has to be the strong one and yes, he does have control issues and yes, he's fucked up and walking down a really sketchy road. But very clearly he's not unsympathetic. I certainly feel for him. He's been dealt a shitty hand by life and he's trying to do the best he can.

I just wish ... wait, back up. The way I read it one of the reasons Dean is having such a hard time dealing with Sam's walk towards the Dark Side is because Dean has already been down that road. He went down it in Hell. He knows the kind of person he can be, the kind of awful things that dwell inside of him. This whole season has been about him dealing with all of that while trying to rebuild his life and stop the apocalypse. And now he's watching Sam walk down his own dark path. The problem is that I don't think Dean has put all of that together. Which isn't a knock on Dean, his psychological plate is kind of full at the moment, he's certainly allowed to be less than perfectly self-aware. But it would certainly make things easier if he could frame his reaction in that way instead of yelling, throwing things around, and punching Sam in the face (just rewatched Metamorphosis last Saturday. Wow there's a lot of good, meaty stuff in that episode).

They're both doing the best they can and it doesn't seem like it's enough.

My prediction for how this is all going to turn out? Now, this is purely spec and I swear I'll cut anyone who spoils me. Just so you're forewarned and all.

Obviously, the big theme of the season has been free will vs. destiny. There's a prophecy here and angels yammering on about destiny all over the place. And while all of that's going on we've seen Sam dealing with a destiny that he had rejected but now seems to be embracing, for his own reasons, of course, but still embracing. It seems like Show is going to come out on the side of Destiny (with a very big 'D').

And yet, I don't think it will. I think the entire apocalypse is going to hinge on Sam and Dean making a choice, a free choice. We've seen the heroes move in that direction. Sam could've continued not drinking demon blood but he chose not to, and not for any petty addiction reasons. We've seen Dean swung around from one horrible situation to another all because it's his "destiny" and yet none of it really is. Those angels who hold to destiny are shown as foreboding, ambiguous characters (Zechariah, Uriel) while those who accept free will are cast in a more forgiving light (Castiel, Anna). I don't think destiny will turn out to have anything to do with it. Well, anything beyond the fact that the Winchesters are able to step up to the task that's before them.

I also find it very interesting that the seals weren't destined to be opened. They were opened because of the actions of one man. Granted, his compliance was not really of his free will because, hello, torture. But it was still his action. And now Dean has to clean up his own mess.

Winchesters, man. How fucked up.

I am amused by Chuck. Though, I gotta say, if Dean showed up at my door and said we had to go stop Lilith and that I was part of the story now, I'd just go with him. Cause you're part of the story now! Yeah, stuff like that sucks in RL but isn't that all what really dreaming about when we write? That we'll get to be part of the story?

Well, I guess that's one of the things I'm dreaming about when I write. Results may vary, after all.

Man, and they're playing with predestination vs. foreordination. One says you're stuck no matter what you do and the other says yes, you have a role to play, but you define the way you play it, or even if you play it at all. I'm telling you, it's like they threw Catholicism and Mormonism into a big blender and this is what came out.

Cause baylorsr was all, "They're straddling the line of blasphemy with that whole Gospel of the Winchesters thing." and I'm all, "Depends what religion you are!" And I chuckled. (You know, cause of the whole extra-Biblical scripture thing. Cause when you believe in golden plates you really don't have any stones to cast;-)

So, yeah, I guess I kinda enjoyed this episode. Though I am never watching the first act EVER AGAIN. Oh, Show. I do love you best.

ETA: OMG, just realized something. While the stuff at the beginning was very overshare for me (you did see my reaction to Yellow Fever, right?) But it was done so affectionately. It's almost like the writers were kind of equating themselves to the us, the fans, and vice versa. Cause Chuck was us and them, just like the publisher was (didn't catch her name, though am amused that Keegan Connor Tracy has been on Show twice now). Don't you all remember how Gamble and Edlund were geeking out about the possibility of fans getting tattos? Probably because they secretly want to be geeky enough to get the tattos?

It's cause we're so awesome.

ETA II: OMG, it is because we're so awesome! I'm kind of starting to turn around on the first ten mintues. Because yeah, the fans love it when they cry, but the writers clearly love it too! They don't have to go to those places but they do because they can't help it. They love the angsty melodrama just like us and they know that on the inside they are us!

LOL, and now I'm asking myself why I do these things to myself. Cause I don't have to be in fandom, I don't have to be in a subculture that has legitimized incest. And yet I love fandom. OMG, I think the reasons why I'm still a fan are freakishly similar to the reasons why I'm still a Mormon. Now there's some blasphemy for you. LOLOLOLOLOL

Comments

[auntiemeesh.livejournal.com]

I just got caught up on the last four episodes today. And the first thing that came to my mind is that Chuck is the ultimate Mary Sue (Marty Stu?). But the Gospels of Winchester? I don't know how Mischa Collins even got that line out with a straight face.

And there's always that little tiny part of me that goes 'I wonder how the characters would respond if they could see all the cracked out shit people write about them' and now we all know, lol. And since my reaction to Wincest is pretty much identical to Dean's, it was pretty funny to watch him just get the hell away from the computer. :)

[liptonrm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I wonder how many takes it took Misha to actually spit it out. It certainly would've had me sporfling all over the place.

And the wincest discussion was just, OMG, so accurate and true. Oh Show, you do like to wind us up and then laugh at us as we twirl around for your amusement. LOL