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liptonrm_backupOK, I wasn't going to post anything about Show because I really don't have that much to say. Plus, I haven't even responded to comments form last week's post (OMG, law school is sapping my will to live!). But, as I'm perusing the internetz I find I have something to say after all.
Is this another case of somebody being wrong on the internet? Not really and definitely not in a wanky sense. I just have to get out what I think about the boys and their motivations and Sam's in particular.
Since I have a whole lot more to say about Sam I'm going to start with Dean. Castiel's kind of a prick. He knew what he was doing last week, he knew he was winding Dean up and setting him loose against Sam. Castiel was going for maximum damage and he may not have gotten everything he wanted (as it's kind of hard to know what he wanted) but that certainly was a clusterfuck.
Dean, especially in the beginning of the episode, is running on rage and fear, with a healthy dose of guilt thrown in for flavoring. He doesn't know what's going on, he doesn't know what happened to Sam when he was in Hell so he's lashing out, reacting to everything that happened to him. He does try to pull it together during the episode, to connect with Sam again, but that chasm is just growing.
Of course, it doesn't help that Sam isn't trying to connect. Then again, how could he? Sam's pretty messed up, supremely messed up. He thought he'd turned his curse into a blessing, he thought he was making things better and now he's not so sure. He thought that he did have a chance against his devilbaby heritage but then he has to find out that the angels aren't so thrilled with what he's been doing. That's gotta hurt.
I wanted to cry my eyes out for Sam Winchester. He's lost so much and he's becoming more and more certain that he's going to lose himself. He lost his brother and then he got him back but the problem is he doesn't know how to relate to him anymore. Those four months changed him. Ever since Dean and Bobby showed up at his motel room door in the premiere he's been trying to fit himself back into that old spot but he can't. He feels completely alone.
I was really struck by something in the last car conversation. Well, it was either there or in the bit where they pulled off the road (BTW, that's, like, the third or fourth time, at least, when they've pulled off at that exact stretch of road. Oh, Vancouver). Anyway, Dean was telling Sam to make him understand what it was like to have that demon blood inside of him and Sam told him that he can't. And Sam's right, Dean can never understand what it's like for Sam. I have a dear friend who's had a chronic, debilitating illness her entire life and I can honestly say that for as much as I empathize I can never know what life is really like for her. And for as much as I try to explain to my mother what it's like to live with my own illness I know that she can never understand it, not really. What's so heartbreaking is that Sam has stopped trying. He's wrapped himself in loneliness because he thinks that's all he has left. He thinks that Dean is only going to turn on him too, at some point.
That shot of Sam's face reflected in the car window, his collar pulled up, was, to me, a call back to 'Mystery Spot.' Except this time when Sam got his brother back things didn't automatically improve. He's still alone. OMG I LUV KIM MANNERS!
OMG WINCHESTERS!!!!!!! Seriously, guys, you're breaking my heart. Cause let's not forget that Dean has his own ticking time bomb waiting to go off. You don't get out of Hell unscathed, you just don't. They're spiraling down separate paths and the angels and demons by their sides are only propelling them ever faster. This can only end badly.
It's funny, for all that I called every single plot point of the MOTW part of the episode (except I totally wanted Sam to use his telekinesis to bust out of the closet. Yes, I know, they don't want to shoot their plot wad, whatever), I have no clue how they're going to bring the larger mythology to a head. I'm really anxious to see where this all goes. GAH
Is this another case of somebody being wrong on the internet? Not really and definitely not in a wanky sense. I just have to get out what I think about the boys and their motivations and Sam's in particular.
Since I have a whole lot more to say about Sam I'm going to start with Dean. Castiel's kind of a prick. He knew what he was doing last week, he knew he was winding Dean up and setting him loose against Sam. Castiel was going for maximum damage and he may not have gotten everything he wanted (as it's kind of hard to know what he wanted) but that certainly was a clusterfuck.
Dean, especially in the beginning of the episode, is running on rage and fear, with a healthy dose of guilt thrown in for flavoring. He doesn't know what's going on, he doesn't know what happened to Sam when he was in Hell so he's lashing out, reacting to everything that happened to him. He does try to pull it together during the episode, to connect with Sam again, but that chasm is just growing.
Of course, it doesn't help that Sam isn't trying to connect. Then again, how could he? Sam's pretty messed up, supremely messed up. He thought he'd turned his curse into a blessing, he thought he was making things better and now he's not so sure. He thought that he did have a chance against his devilbaby heritage but then he has to find out that the angels aren't so thrilled with what he's been doing. That's gotta hurt.
I wanted to cry my eyes out for Sam Winchester. He's lost so much and he's becoming more and more certain that he's going to lose himself. He lost his brother and then he got him back but the problem is he doesn't know how to relate to him anymore. Those four months changed him. Ever since Dean and Bobby showed up at his motel room door in the premiere he's been trying to fit himself back into that old spot but he can't. He feels completely alone.
I was really struck by something in the last car conversation. Well, it was either there or in the bit where they pulled off the road (BTW, that's, like, the third or fourth time, at least, when they've pulled off at that exact stretch of road. Oh, Vancouver). Anyway, Dean was telling Sam to make him understand what it was like to have that demon blood inside of him and Sam told him that he can't. And Sam's right, Dean can never understand what it's like for Sam. I have a dear friend who's had a chronic, debilitating illness her entire life and I can honestly say that for as much as I empathize I can never know what life is really like for her. And for as much as I try to explain to my mother what it's like to live with my own illness I know that she can never understand it, not really. What's so heartbreaking is that Sam has stopped trying. He's wrapped himself in loneliness because he thinks that's all he has left. He thinks that Dean is only going to turn on him too, at some point.
That shot of Sam's face reflected in the car window, his collar pulled up, was, to me, a call back to 'Mystery Spot.' Except this time when Sam got his brother back things didn't automatically improve. He's still alone. OMG I LUV KIM MANNERS!
OMG WINCHESTERS!!!!!!! Seriously, guys, you're breaking my heart. Cause let's not forget that Dean has his own ticking time bomb waiting to go off. You don't get out of Hell unscathed, you just don't. They're spiraling down separate paths and the angels and demons by their sides are only propelling them ever faster. This can only end badly.
It's funny, for all that I called every single plot point of the MOTW part of the episode (except I totally wanted Sam to use his telekinesis to bust out of the closet. Yes, I know, they don't want to shoot their plot wad, whatever), I have no clue how they're going to bring the larger mythology to a head. I'm really anxious to see where this all goes. GAH
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Date: 2008-10-11 03:20 pm (UTC)I think you've nailed BOTH characters and that's becoming rare lately in this fandom.
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Date: 2008-10-20 10:50 pm (UTC)And fandom is ... well, fandom is fandom. It wouldn't be itself if it didn't completely misconstrue things like motivation from time to time. Oh, fandom, indeed.